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Perhaps I should consider adding 'OLX' to 'eBay, LeBonCoin and Yahoo.jp' in this thread's title. OLX (short for online exchange) is a local free online classified site which seems to be gaining increasing popularity in countries where there's no dedicated eBay domain. Most of their new sites have sprung up earlier this year. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLX You may remember on the previous page I'd found a 38mm 'reduced' Yema Spationaute III on the Portuguese OLX site. Bearing this fact in mind, yesterday evening, I ran a couple of quick searches on 'Yema' on the Far East OLX sites. A couple turned up in Indonesia, traditional home of the 'Jam blogspot' seller but the photos are of variable quality. A dressy N81W53 - asking 760 Indonesian Rupiah: http://www.olx.co.id/iklan/69414014.html Jam Tangan Jadul - Yema Paris
A 'dressy' N81W63 - asking 1500 Indonesian Rupiah: http://www.olx.co.id/iklan/69732899.html Arloji Yema Original Limited Edition
A 'reduced' N80A696 Spationaute III, again asking 760 Indonesian Rupiah: http://www.olx.co.id/iklan/68608263.html Jam Yema Spationaute Iii Chronograph Original
Apart from the strap having been replaced with one of 'pretty good quality' as stated in the seller's description .... Note also that the pushers appear to be devoid of their gold plating and the screw-down crown fitted is a non-original replacement. | |
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But it was this rather misleading listing for a 'New in Box' 43mm Spationaute III on the OLX Thailand site which grabbed my attention. (Note the format of OLX listings varies considerably between sites): http://www.olx.co.th/product-7751939/ YEMA Mens SPATIONAUTE III
The asking price of 4500 Thai Baht is equivalent to only $139 USD / £85.60 GBP, but this watch is certainly not 'New in Box' .... not as it left the Yema factory 20-odd years ago. You don't need to study the seller's photos too closely to spot the following: There's a sliver of lume missing from the minute hand and a chunk missing from the bezel's 3 o'clock marker. The side-on view gives the impression that the original crystal has been replaced (from the over-sized polished bevel). The screw-down crown fitted is a non-original replacement and a 24mm strap has been squeezed to fit the 22mm lug width. That all said, I could almost be tempted myself - as a restoration project, except that if you click on the seller's other items .... they're clearly a dealer in used watches. Makes you wonder what else might have been done to this watch besides. Does the 'With Special Seiko 7A38 Movement' imply that the original Shimauchi V906 branded movement has been replaced ? Indeed one of the pull downs to the left of the description (กดดู line ID) advises caution: Warning !! Do not transfer money or deposit Buyers - Sellers should arrange to meet. And inspect the goods before payment. Checking account fraud here! | |
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On a lighter note. Don't even think about running a search on Yema on the Philippines OLX site. Not unless you want to wade through literally hundreds of listings for sticky egg-yolk based deserts - Yema is a Filipino delicacy. | |
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I sometimes feel a tinge of sadness when I see other collectors offering their watches for sale. If I'm not mistaken, the seller 'Yema' on LeBonCoin.fr is the same person 'Jecko' (Jean-Christophe) of Forum à Montres, who wrote so much about the history of Spationautes. Yema Spationaute III NOS ![]() ![]() ![]() Yema - Mise en ligne le 12 octobre à 19:27. Prix : 350 € Ville : Paris Code postal : 75017 Description : Très belle Yema Spationaute III NOS Pilote neuve Bracelet bleu neuf Cette Montre n'est pas un contrefaçon. Instantly recognisable (to me) by that 'double jonc' ZRC leather strap - and not exactly in NOS condition. Méchant, Jecko. | |
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Speaking of instantly recognisable Yema N8's, I notice from my eBay watching page that the ex-Badingski ex-Timely_Classic Flygraf, discussed on the previous page (and prior to that on page 3 of this thread and elsewhere) sold yesterday against a best offer: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121442723373 The seller had paid Timely_Classic £420 for this extremely rough ex-filipino Flygraf in January 2013. I did message him to confirm it was the same watch. Originally he'd listed it with a risible B-I-N price of £495, but after our exchange of messages, he immediately dropped the price to £395 - then two days later added this line to the description: PLEASE NOTE I WILL BE ON HOLIDAY BETWEEN 2ND OCTOBER AND 11TH OCTOBER. I WILL DEAL WITH ANY QUESTIONS ON MY RETURN. SORRY FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE. Presumably someone made an offer on it while he was away on holiday and he gratefully or grudgingly accepted it on his return. Unfortunately Goofbid's eBay Best Offer History tool hasn't picked it up, so I guess we'll never know how much the buyer paid. Belated Edit: Or perhaps we will. Seems that 'Best Offer' must have fallen through, because the seller subsequently re-listed it - sold for £195 as a B-I-N later today. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121460049351
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Back on LeBonCoin again this morning - same price, same (re)listing. http://www.leboncoin.fr/montres_bijoux/647754380.htm?ca=1_s | |
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Here's another fairly grotty Yema Spationaute III listed recently by one of the multitude of Indonesian blogspot sellers .... This time another 38mm 'reduced' model N80A696 - which going by the state of the dial has suffered from moisture ingress. http://salejam.blogspot.com/2014/10/yema-spattonaute-iii-chrono-quartz.html Minggu, 19 Oktober 2014 YEMA SPATIONAUTE III Chrono Quartz YEMA SPATIONAUTE III Chronograph Quartz Size : 39mm Dial warna Putih dengan 3 buah sub dial Bezel stainless dengan komibnasi warna gold pada garis-garis dan tulisannya Terdapat 3 buah tombol pusher warna gold dan sebuah crown model drat Tertulis SPATIONAUTE III pada bezel nya Tertulis ARAGATZ dan CCCP France pada tutup belakang Water resist tested 100m Case tebal dan berat\ Tali nylon warna coklat baru MADE IN FRANCE " Yema Spationaute III commemorates a Franco-Russian space mission 'Aragatz' of December 1988. During the mission, French astronaut Jean-Loup Chretien made an EVA lasting 5 hours 57 minutes. The case-back of Spationaute III's are engraved 'Aragatz', 'vol longue duree and 'C.C.C.P. FRANCE'. There are two sizes of Spationaute III: this, the larger 43mm O, and a smaller 38mm O version.."
Harga :900.000,-
That said, the asking price of 900,000 Indonesian Rupiah equates to only £46 GBP / $75 USD. Depends how bad you really want one. | |
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As indeed it was: about half a dozen times, by my reckoning. At some point - I haven't bothered checking back through the re-listings, the seller must must have changed the listing format from auction to a Buy-it-Now, with Make Best Offer, because yesterday it sold. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271638974462 From what I can deduce from Goofbid's Best Offer History tool - which I don't entirely trust, it looks like it finally went for $145. | |
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Alas, it was I. | |
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5 years on from when it was first listed on eBay - I was wondering when this would make another re-appearance. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231386115010 Note from the seller's description, which I'm not bothering to copy and paste, that once again this is N80A696 serial number 2 - 270. If you want to understand the shenanigans surrounding this watch (which, despite using the same photos, wasn't the one previously sold by this dealer) go back to the bottom of the previous page (11) and read the complete sequence of posts dated 3rd August. | |
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Spotted another laughably over-priced Yema Spationaute III 38mm 'reduced' N80A696, fitted with a hideously ill-matched TAG Heuer style after-market bracelet, listed on LeBonCoin this morning. Unusually small photos - even for LBC. Probably just as well. http://www.leboncoin.fr/montres_bijoux/732896168.htm?ca=1_s Montre Yema Spationaute III
Fretté - Mise en ligne le 15 novembre à 10:46. Prix : 720 € Ville : Crach Code postal : 56950 Description : Vends montre YEMA Spationaute III tout acier, étanche 100m, quartz, série limitée, chrono avec temps intermédiaires, jour et date, couronne vissée, lunette à cliquet anti retour, parfait état. Frais d'envoi à la charge de l'acheteur et paiement contre colis au préposé de la poste. | |
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Speaking of French eBay sellers and their laughably over-optimistic asking prices, earlier this evening, I spotted this .... Yema N81W53 listed by one with zero feedback, apparently a good command of English - and absolutely no idea of their value. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281500830710
RETAIL VALUE $ 500.00 if available, rare! If you are looking for a high quality watch that is a true statement piece, this is the watch for you. Yema features movements by the Seiko. This quartz timepiece is known for quality workmanship, accurate timekeeping, and modern style! Water resistant to 50 meters, with lots of features! If you want a reliable watch for everyday, you can’t go wrong! Black leather band, 39 MM x 11MM with many working functions. There is no box or paperwork accompany the watch. This is an estate piece, probably from 2010-2012. It does show slight signs of wear typical of a gently used watch. No tears, discoloration, or defect in the leather band. No scratches on the crystal and dial features large Roman numerical. Must have for the watch collection. I say 'apparently', because if you google (any part) of the description, you can see where he copied it from (almost verbatim): http://www.buggysgoneshopping.com/Pages/Watches.aspx Remember Buggy's Yema N81W53 ? | |
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Remember this post of mine from a year ago ? | |
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Well going by the postal code 75017 (and 17th Arrondissement) .... I now reckon they could both be the same person. This Yema Spationaute III 'cadran drapeaux' was listed on LeBonCoin earlier this evening - also priced @ 500 Euros. Montre YEMA Mission franco-sovietique ARAGATZ 1988 ![]() ![]() bailly - Mise en ligne le 26 novembre à 18:12. Prix : 500 € Ville : Paris Code postal : 75017 Description : Vends "collector "montre Yema ( original numéroté N8 OP 78 paiement cash liquide à l'exclusion de toutes autres moyens) tirage limité réalisé à l'occasion de la mission spatiale franco soviétique Soyuz TM-7/ MIR/ ARAGATZ au cours de laquelle le spationaute Jean-Loup CHRETIEN portait ce type de montre Waterproof 100m particulièrement résistante aux vibrations et aux chocs. Peu portée, pile à changer. Uniquement par téléphone 06 79 09 39 63 de10H à 22H00 et il ne sera pas répondu aux SMS ni aux Mails. Prix non négociable. A enlever sur place dans le 17eme. Although the LeBonCoin description is slightly different from last November's listing by 'mano', it's the fact that the seller is re-using the same 'stock image' (originally lifted from the 'Historique' section of the old Yema website), besides one of the actual watch for sale, that his price of 500 Euros is 'non-negotiable' and the name given this time is 'bailly', which helped me make the connection between these 3 listings. The name of the other would-be seller who advertised his Spationaute III 'cadran drapeaux' on those dating websites was .... Jean-Claude Bailly. I remember well, because I traded a couple of emails with this deluded would-be seller. Hence my subsequent post on page 9: I did actually make contact with the seller. Not only wouldn't he budge on his pie-in-the-sky asking price of 500 Euros .... Quote: The watch YEMA ARAGATZ is not sold yet because this watch is to be payed with Euros (500) in Paris where I live. But the only way he'd sell it was by a face-to-face meeting in Paris (that's when he's actually there) - for cash. Dream on. Translating the relevant parts of the current LeBonCoin advert's description, it appears he's still as intransigent as ever: Only by phone 06 79 09 39 63 between 10H-2200hrs and I will not respond to texts or to emails. Price not negotiable. To collect on site in the 17th (arrondissement). Payment in hard cash to the exclusion of all other means. I suspect he'll be re-listing it again another 12 months time. Hopefully he'll have got round to having the battery replaced by then. | |
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And another case of Déjà vu. Listed on eBay France earlier this morning - presumably this is 'Jecko's Yema Spationaute III. See my post above dated October 13th. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131362288526
Collector Modèle Yema SPANIONAUTE III. Il s'agit d'un tirage limité réalisé à l'occasion de la mission spatiale franco soviétique Soyuz TM-7/ MIR/ ARAGATZ au cours de laquelle le spationaute Jean-Loup CHRETIEN portait ce type de montre Waterproof 100m particulièrement résistante aux vibrations et aux chocs. La pile a été changée il y a 1 mois Montre dans un état quasi neuf Ignore the primary image, because it's another 'stock photo' of a different watch (note the full complement of dial printing) lifted from Harry Bishop's Yema blog article. However the other 3 small photos are the same as Jecko used in his LeBonCoin listing in October.
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After I'd posted that I had doubts - for a couple of reasons, notably the eBay user ID and the seller's stated location of 'Saint Cloud'. So I sent the seller a quick message via eBay, asking if they were 'Jecko'. I made no mention of the discrepancy in listing photos. They just replied a few minutes ago, very briefly saying: Bjr Ni Jecko Ni contrefacon. c'est ma montre. You'll notice the seller has since amended their listing by changing the primary image: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDetails&item=131362288526
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131362288526
The other reason I knew it couldn't be Jean-Christophe was the incorrect spelling of SPANIONAUTE in the listing description. Something still smells not quite right though. | |
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Quel surprise, not ! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131362288526
That's if it ever genuinely was available.
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Here's a Yema N8 0P896 'Pseudo Plongeur' which was listed on Yahoo Japan auctions at the weekend. Dunno how I managed to miss it before, because unusually for YJ, the listing title is all written in English. http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e151102446 21・YEMA PARIS chronograph TACHYMETER 3-482 (N80P896)
Google translates the seller's Japanese description as follows:
■ Product contents YEMA PARIS chronograph TACHYMETER 3-482 Part number : 3-482 (N80P896) Dial Color: navy blue Dial size: about 39 mm (horizontal / excluding crown) Quartz. Now currently running
Thank you on some dirt scratch some things and understanding in the body, etc. in order to have used. (And many scratches on the back cover) Also will join us on please confirm the following points. ※ will be delivered the body only by the box-manual lost. (Scratch dirt there somewhat.
■ state but will be old model, overall there is no feeling, conspicuous scratch is on the back cover. ■ The accessory without ※ box, manual, no, I will be delivered of the body only.
※ Because last secondhand goods becomes, you will no claim no return. .. Not understand, the bid of a nervous person. I refuse. No bids placed on it so far, after 2 days, so this could end up being a bargain buy for someone at the opening bid price of 5000 Yen. The watch appears to be still fitted with the original dark blue leather Yema strap. Pity about the badly scratched case-back though. | |
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That Yema N80P896 on YJ did turn out to be a bargain buy for someone - sold earlier today for the 5000 Yen opening bid price. http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e151102446
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It's back again. Re-listed early this morning as a low start (1 Euro), but private listing - bidders' identities protected auction. Caveat Emptor. ![]() | |
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