Another stupidly over-priced 7A38-7140 SAA051J on eBay Italy

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Another stupidly over-priced 7A38-7140 SAA051J on eBay Italy

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Although it irked me from the moment I'd first seen it, I initially resolved not to mention it, so as not to be accused of constantly criticizing or singling out Italian eBay sellers. On 19th July, seller autleaf listed this NOS 7A38-7140 SAA051J with a typically Italian ludicrous Buy-it-Now price of 1400 Euros - probably double what it's worth in real world terms.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4072393613

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Has to be said, the composition of some of the photos were a little strange, particularly the zoomed in close-up shots, one of which the seller chose to use as his primary image. These are the two which really matter, showing the watch is definitely NOS. I had a quick look through my photo folders and that case-back serial # 580064 isn't one I'd seen before.

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After a couple of days, the seller revised the listing, replacing some of the photos. Here's one of his 3 later additions:

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RARE Vintage 1985 Seiko Quartz chronograph Sports 100 7A38-7140. In a new condition, never used, currently working and keeping good time, beautiful and very rare watch. It’s hard to find another one in this condition, with outer box, booklet

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Re: Another stupidly over-priced 7A38-7140 SAA051J on eBay Italy

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Having also subsequently reduced the Buy-it-Now by a mere 20 Euros, yesterday evening, the Italian eBay seller ended the listing in the time-honoured fashion as allegedly no longer available. :roll:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304072393613

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He re-listed it just 50 minutes later. :roll:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4085772853

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More than half the photos had been replaced this time. Again, his choice of primary image possibly wasn't the best. :|

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That re-listing lasted less than 4 hours, before he ended it yesterday evening, again as allegedly no longer available. :roll:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304085772853

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Re: Another stupidly over-priced 7A38-7140 SAA051J on eBay Italy

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It came as no surprise to me, when the Italian eBay seller re-listed it once again this morning, with the Buy-it-Now price increased to 1430 Euros. :roll:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4086452970

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Re: Another stupidly over-priced 7A38-7140 SAA051J on eBay Italy

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After making two revisions to that previous re-listing at the beginning of August, by which he'd reduced the Buy-it-Now price from the original ludicrous 1430 Euros to a marginally less ridiculous 1200 Euros, the Italian eBay seller ended the listing in the time honoured manner as allegedly no longer available, which as often the case, was evidently untrue. :roll:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304086452970

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Seiko7A38 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:54 amAlthough it irked me from the moment I'd first seen it, I initially resolved not to mention it, so as not to be accused of constantly criticizing or singling out Italian eBay sellers. On 19th July, seller autleaf listed this NOS 7A38-7140 SAA051J with a typically Italian ludicrous Buy-it-Now price of 1400 Euros - probably double what it's worth in real world terms.
But sometimes these things have got to be said (over and over, apparently). :roll: A matter of 3 minutes later, deluded Italian eBay seller autleaf had re-listed his NOS 7A38-7140 as a 7-day auction, with the opening bid price reduced to 1190 Euros, shipping cost reduced to a nominal 1 Euro and with the option to make an offer:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4096737075

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A week later, he re-listed it again as another 7-day auction, further reducing the opening bid price to 1090 Euros:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4105992920

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Not exactly surprisingly, that re-listing ended earlier this morning without any bids placed and the watch still unsold. Instead of continuing in what most people would consider the sensible direction, this morning, the Italian eBay seller has re-listed it once again, but with the opening bid price increased back up to 1300 Euros !! :lol:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4114512179

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There's still the option to make an offer. So out of devilment, I decided it was about time I gave him a reality check. :evil: I sent him a deliberately lowball offer of 130 Euros. He responded with a counter-offer of 1299 Euros, so continuing the 'move the decimal point game' I countered with 12.99 Euros. He appears to have cottoned on. This was his last counter.

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After that, I sent him an eBay message, including a link to this thread. During our brief exchange he stated that he had already declined an offer of 800 Euros. I told him I thought he was a bloody fool for doing so, to which he responded:
thank you for telling me this,and this is my business,I do not regret it, and thank you again for reminding me.
So there you have it. :roll:

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Re: Another stupidly over-priced 7A38-7140 SAA051J on eBay Italy

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I suppose it's time for another update on this saga. Deluded Italian eBay seller autleaf later revised that re-listing, reducing the opening bid price to 1050 Euros. He subsequently re-listed it again, exactly as before: another 7-day auction with the same opening bid price, not surprisingly to no avail.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4126279895

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His most recent re-listing on 6th September was as a Buy-It-Now for 1000 Euros (with the option to make an offer).

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4135611181

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He ended that re-listing late yesterday evening, once again as allegedly no longer available. :roll:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304135611181

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Re: Another stupidly over-priced 7A38-7140 SAA051J on eBay Italy

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He never had me fooled for one moment. It's back on eBay again, re-listed late yesterday evening, exactly as before. :roll:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4177067915

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And so it goes on and on, seemingly ad nauseam. :roll: Late yesterday evening, deluded Italian eBay seller autleaf ended that latest re-listing as item allegedly no longer available - which of course, as on all previous occasions, wasn't true.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304177067915

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He immediately re-listed it with the Buy-it-Now priced increased back up to 1200 Euros and another fresh set of photos:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4194686135

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I've only bothered to upload half of the set, but even the close-up photos of the dial were new.

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Re: Another stupidly over-priced 7A38-7140 SAA051J on eBay Italy

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This latest farce has gone on for 3 months now (since 19th July) - per my original post.
Seiko7A38 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:54 amOn 19th July, seller autleaf listed this NOS 7A38-7140 SAA051J with a typically Italian ludicrous Buy-it-Now price of 1400 Euros - probably double what it's worth in real world terms.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4072393613

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Has to be said, the composition of some of the photos were a little strange, particularly the zoomed in close-up shots, one of which the seller chose to use as his primary image. These are the two which really matter, showing the watch is definitely NOS. I had a quick look through my photo folders and that case-back serial # 580064 isn't one I'd seen before.
However, I was earlier mistaken in writing 'case-back serial # 580064 isn't one I'd seen before.' My cursory skim through my photos folders was evidently too quick. :oops: This morning, something else prompted me to re-visit the old forum's 7A38-7140 SAA051J model thread. Lower down page 6, I found my 'getting very silly' post dated January 12th 2019.

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Somehow I'd failed to remember, but the same deluded Italian eBay seller autleaf has been trying to flog this same NOS 7A38-7140 s/n 580064 (asking in excess of 1000 Euros) since January 2019 !! :lol:
Seiko7A38 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:54 amAfter a couple of days, the seller revised the listing, replacing some of the photos. Here's one of his 3 later additions:

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I'm not making excuses for my earlier oversight, but I suspect what probably threw me a curve ball, was that when he first listed it (again) on 19th July this year, the watch was shown in a conventional black Seiko presentation box, as opposed to the distinctive blue plastic 'ladder' style, which is what he'd used in his original listing in January 2019.

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Note that he's since removed the hang tag extension, with the erroneous (SYE058P) sales sales code label. ;)

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Seiko7A38 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:23 amAnd so it goes on and on, seemingly ad nauseam. :roll: Late yesterday evening, deluded Italian eBay seller autleaf ended that latest re-listing as item allegedly no longer available - which of course, as on all previous occasions, wasn't true.
This time, when he ended the previous re-listing (which was less than 3 weeks old) earlier this afternoon, he used the alternative tired excuse: because there was an error in the listing - presumably still a grave mistake in the pricing. :lol:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304194686135

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Seiko7A38 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:37 amSomehow I'd failed to remember, but the same deluded Italian eBay seller autleaf has been trying to flog this same NOS 7A38-7140 s/n 580064 (asking in excess of 1000 Euros) since January 2019 !! :lol:
Another month; another re-listing, this time with the ludicrous Buy-it-Now @ 1100 Euros - same as in January 2019. :roll:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4221325653

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Remiss of me not to have posted an update before, but over the last fortnight, deluded Italian eBay seller autleaf has made a couple of revisions to that latest re-listing:

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He's reduced his ridiculous Buy-it-Now asking price a total of 3 times, eventually dropping below the 1000 Euro mark.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4221325653

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Seiko7A38 wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:13 amHe's reduced his ridiculous Buy-it-Now asking price a total of 3 times, eventually dropping below the 1000 Euro mark.
And so it goes on, seemingly ad nauseam. :roll:

Deluded Italian eBay seller autleaf did actually make another revision to his re-listing, not long after my previous post, further reducing the Buy-it-Now price by another 10 euros to 960 Euros.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4221325653

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Yesterday evening, he did another about turn - and it's back to 1000 Euros again ! :lol:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4221325653

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I'm not sure whether to believe this, but deluded Italian eBay seller autleaf's much re-listed NOS 7A38-7140 SAA051J appears to have finally sold this morning for his 1000 Euros Buy-it-Now price ! :o

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304221325653

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Seiko7A38 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:37 amSomehow I'd failed to remember, but the same deluded Italian eBay seller autleaf has been trying to flog this same NOS 7A38-7140 s/n 580064 (asking in excess of 1000 Euros) since January 2019 !! :lol:
If it's true, it's taken him just under 2 years !! :roll:

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It really is difficult to know what to believe with this deluded Italian eBay seller. :roll: Quite incredibly, that 7A38-7140 was back on eBay, re-listed again late yesterday evening. :?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Vintage ... 4283070152

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But early this morning, after just 9 hours, he ended the re-listing because of an error. Go figure. :lol:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304283070152

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