Beware of refurbished 7A38-7070's from Italian eBay seller

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Beware of refurbished 7A38-7070's from Italian eBay seller

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This year I started noticing both 7A28-7040's and 7A38-7070's being listed by an Italian eBay seller fabio2737. Generally, their overall condition appears to be 'too good to be true' and their frankly ridiculous 'Buy-it-Now' prices reflect that.

What makes these watches look so good is that they have been skilfully bead-blasted (particularly the clasps) and fitted with Yobokies' repro bezel inserts. The sellers' inclusion of ticks in the title helps draw your attention to the eBay listing. The seller also uploads close to the maximum number of photos - usually between 20 and 24.

The first 7A38-7070 I can remember seeing from this seller was listed in March this year, with a hefty Buy-it-Now asking price of $750:

✔✔TOP CONDITION ! RARE SEIKO 7A38 7070✔✔ (#285754089017)

There's not a lot of point in my belatedly posting loads of (the 22) photos, but what was glaringly obvious about this particular watch, is that it had been fitted with the wrong (longer) pushers from a 7A28-7040 @ 2:00 and 4:00 o'clock.

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Their second 7A38-7070 was listed in May this year, with an eye-watering Buy-it-Now asking price of €980 Euros ! :o

✔✔MINT CONDITION ! RARE SEIKO 7A38 7070✔✔ (#285839063364)

That ended listing, which sold on 5th June, is still accessible at present: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285839063364
So I'm only bothering to upload 3 of the seller's 24 photos:

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That supposedly 'mint condition' example, 'all original, except for the bezel insert', had been erroneously fitted with the (bead-blasted) wrong Seiko p/n B1075S bracelet off a 7A28-7040 /-7049.

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Re: Beware of refurbished 7A38-7070's from Italian eBay seller

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They listed another 7A38-7070 yesterday afternoon, with a somewhat lower Buy-it-Now price of €635, with the option to make an offer. Given the refurbished (and incorrect) condition, that's still more than double what it's realistically worth.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285989369781 ✔✔VERY GOOD CONDITION! RARE SEIKO 7A38 7070✔✔✔

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Note the sizeable ding on the bottom L.H. corner of the watch case, partially disguised by the bead-blasting.
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Note the amount of wear visible in the bracelet link hinges, which cannot be disguised.
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Their 19 uploaded images included no less than 5 photos of the admittedly nicely refinished SQ clasp.
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Once again, this watch is fitted with the wrong Seiko p/n B1075S bracelet off a 7A28-7040 / -7049, as opposed to the correct Seiko p/n B1241S. They made the mistake of bead-blasting the underside of the bracelet on this one. Originally it would have been bright stainless, like the back of the watch case, which looks like it was half-heartedly masked. :roll:

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Re: Beware of refurbished 7A38-7070's from Italian eBay seller

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That refurbished 7A38-7070 allegedly sold for an undisclosed best offer on 17th August.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285989369781

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Whoever bought it evidently wasn't impressed and presumably returned it. It's back on eBay this afternoon, re-listed as a 10-day auction, with a rather pointless opening bid price of €1 Euro, but with a reserve price set. :lol:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/286047126928

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Caveat Emptor :!:

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Re: Beware of refurbished 7A38-7070's from Italian eBay seller

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The above 10-day auction for that bead-blasted 7A38-7070 ended yesterday afternoon, with the bidding @ €274 Euros after 42 bids. The winning bidder (feedback 13) placed 10 of those bids, but the auction didn't appear to have been shilled, as Italian eBay auctions often are. The reserve price was not met, so it's back on eBay again, re-listed this morning, as a Buy-it-Now for €420 Euros. I repeat - Caveat Emptor. :!:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/286063026510

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