How much is a 'NOS' 7A38-6010 SAA040J really worth ?

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How much is a 'NOS' 7A38-6010 SAA040J really worth ?

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Late in the evening of 19th September, Italian eBay seller oysterdelarge727 listed a 'NOS' 7A38-6010 SAA040J with a typically ludicrous Buy-it-Now price of 850 Euros. He ended it just short of a week later, in his customary manner, because of an error - presumably in the over-ambitious pricing. :roll:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-NOS-Sei ... 4403396630

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It was admittedly in very nice almost mint condition, but hardly worth anything like his risible 850 Euros asking price.

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What I found incredible (and quite disgusting) was that he also uploaded half a dozen photos of it in that much re-used Seiko presentation box, that is still full of dead skin flakes.

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Three days later, for good measure (and more visibility) he'd also listed it in parallel on the Italian classified site Subito.

https://www.subito.it/abbigliamento-acc ... 127095.htm

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Bearing in mind what I'd written fairly recently, in this other thread, which documents his earlier shill bidding activity:
Seiko7A38 wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:05 amGiuseppe stopped listing watches on eBay as auctions some time ago and since reverted to Buy-it-Now format, using his secondary user ID oysterdelarge727.
He took me slightly by surprise a week ago today, when instead of re-listing it as another Buy-it-Now listing, with a slightly reduced price, instead he reverted back and re-listed it as a 7-day auction, with an opening price of 1 Euro.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Seiko-Q ... 4414384326

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Earlier this morning, with only 8 hours of the auction remaining, the bidding had stalled at just 251 Euros. In fact it had earlier reached 253 Euros, but the high bidder had subsequently retracted their bid.

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The auction ended a few moments ago, with the bidding jumping from 351 Euros to 651 Euros in the final seconds ! :o

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/384414384326

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For that reason, the eBay Bidding History warrants closer scrutiny.

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The losing bidder with a feedback of 75, who bid 649 Euros with less than 5 minutes remaining, has 100% bidding activity with this seller, clearly pointing to their being a shill. Depending which screen you're viewing, eBay gives different encrypted ID's: 8***3 or 6***r (which is a much better clue as to their true identity).

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As expected, it's another of Giuseppe's multiple eBay ID's and previously proven shill bidding accomplice: russell_06. :roll:

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Re: How much is a 'NOS' 7A38-6010 SAA040J really worth ?

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This gets more hilarious by the minute. I must admit, it didn't click straight away, because Giuseppe (currently using oysterdelarge727) doesn't use his primary eBay ID oysterdelarge728 to list 7Axx's very often; certainly not recently.

Note the feedback number - 644 - the same as the winning bidder !! :lol:

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So not only was he the losing shill bidder @ 649 Euros, but also the winning bidder @ 651 Euros and thus managed, by his greed and gross incompetence, to literally out-shill himself !! :lol:

The next highest losing bidder had only bid 330 Euros and as I'd opine the watch is realistically worth more than that, I doubt very much that they'll be receiving a second chance offer for coming in a lowly third place. Presumably, it's been returned to its slot in Giuseppe's diminishing 7Axx collection box for the time being (third from right in bottom row):

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Incidentally, at the time of writing, that Subito listing is still live.
Seiko7A38 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:32 pmThree days later, for good measure (and more visibility) he'd also listed it in parallel on the Italian classified site Subito.

https://www.subito.it/abbigliamento-acc ... 127095.htm

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Re: How much is a 'NOS' 7A38-6010 SAA040J really worth ?

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This isn't really meant as a comparison, but I know exactly what a NOS 7A38-6010 SAA040J is worth, because I bought one myself, back in February 2012. I won it, against strong and legitimate bidding competition, in a US eBay auction which ended in the early hours of the morning of 31st January. It was genuinely unworn, NOS with tags in the original Seiko presentation box. I paid $361 for it. I'd almost forgotten I'd created a separate thread for it on the old forum:
My (literally) newest incoming Seiko 7A38 - painfully slow reveal. Here's a few of the photos from that thread:

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Seiko7A38 wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:05 am This gets more hilarious by the minute. I must admit, it didn't click straight away, because Giuseppe (currently using oysterdelarge727) doesn't use his primary eBay ID oysterdelarge728 to list 7Axx's very often; certainly not recently.

Note the feedback number - 644 - the same as the winning bidder !! :lol:
Hard to credit just how brazen Giuseppe can be. :roll:
He's since had the audacity to leave himself an unworded positive feedback for winning his own shilled auction ! :lol:

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With hindsight, I probably should have added this latest fiasco to his dedicated shill bidding thread in the eBay section.

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