The ONE and ONLY WRUW thread - Part Deux !

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Sunday afternoon swap for a bit of bling, to brighten up a dull day. This is my second string example of the gold-tone 7A38-727A SAA126J. As originally purchased, the plating was well worn and the bracelet badly stretched, so I swapped the 7230 dial / movement, Tachymeter ring and case-back into those of a gold-tone 7A38-7190, which had succumbed to a severe battery leak (hence the badly tarnished 2 o'clock pusher cup).

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It's not a franken as such, more of a 'bitza' (but built with all the correct parts). I later bought this mint NOS example.

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The reason I got this out of my collection box instead of the NOS example ? You guessed - it was doing the 'two-second two-step' low battery indicator - so I've just replaced it. Story of my life lately. :lol:

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Seiko7A38 wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:08 am Continuing in dress-down mode. Wearing my absolute worst condition stainless 7A38-7000 SAA007J 'beater' this morning. Pretty it ain't. :( It goes by the pet name 'El Caracortada' for obvious reasons. If you've not seen it before, its evolution / restoration / re-build whatever, is documented in this thread in the old forum's Workshop section.

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Incidentally, it very nearly received a slightly better 700L dial / movement transplant at the weekend, which amusingly might have reunited the well-worn watch case with its original dial / movement ....
Perhaps I'm sometimes overly sentimental about certain 'lesser condition' watches in my collection, for all the wrong reasons. Well I've finally decided that it's time for 'El Caracortada' to meet his maker. This is absolutely the last time you will see me wearing what is undoubtedly my worst condition stainless 7A38-7000 SAA007J, in its current guise. :(

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In true gangster form, 'El Caracortada' didn't give up without a fight. Whereas I could have just simply swapped over the complete better 700L dial / movement (that had become available from the 7A38-7029 Franken I re-hashed last Friday), instead I chose to do it the hard way. :roll: I decided I wanted to use the best combination of dial / hands and movement. Rather than clutter up the WRUW thread with details, I'll post a few photos in the Workshop section in this new thread.

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Wearing another unrestored beater this morning (except it's dry this time) - a well-worn 7A38-7080 SAA033J in overdue need of some TLC. Meanwhile, I'm just about to start work on another even worse example, that's higher up the queue.

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Seiko7A38 wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 10:19 amWearing this 'restored beater' 7A38-7070 SAA031J (fitted with a Yobokies' repro' bezel insert) this morning.
Oops - it's a repost ! :oops: But it is what I'm wearing as I type - and you know what ? The more I see of those beaten-up SAAF issued versions, the lower my aspirations of owning one become. I'm quite content with my cheap 'civvy' beater.

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It's Franken Friday - and so I've just exhumed this ancient creation of mine from a dusty corner of the collection crypt.
This was the first (of two) cross-caliber 7Axx Frankens I ever built - about 10 years ago, from two salesman's sample cases. The 609L dial and hands are from the blingy gold-tone 7A38-6109 'diver' (mounted on a long-forgotten random donor movement). The case and bracelet are from the unloved 7A34-7019 (which has the date window @ 12 o'clock).

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Here's a couple of photos I took just after I'd finished it - on 19/07/2011.

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It still has that S23210J (US market variant) sticker on the [SAMPLE] stamped case-back. :D

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Small photo above is of the 7A34-7010 S23204J (normal worldwide export equivalent).

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Although it's a bit dressy and for that reason sadly doesn't get worn very often, I've always had a bit of a soft spot for that little 7A34 / 7A38 Franken. I've sometimes thought about building another. It wouldn't be difficult. About a year after I bought that 7A34-7019 salesman's sample case, I bought another, in September 2012, which thankfully this time came with a full bracelet (less clasp) from the same US eBay seller 49ronnie (a.k.a. the late Ron Canda R.I.P.). Back in those days, Ron must have had shelves full of Seiko salesman's sample cases in his St. Louis jewellery store's stockroom, because he was constantly listing them on eBay, usually for very reasonable prices, too.

In fact, I could build another 7A34 / 7A38 Franken exactly like that one, because I still have an unused 609L dial and hands from another 7A38-6109 sample case (again purchased from Ron, more than 10 years ago). But it would be a bit pointless having 2 identical Frankens I didn't wear. :roll: Over the years, I've toyed with a couple ideas. The first, which I haven't entirely dismissed, was actually using it to restore a well-worn 7A34-7019, a real 'junker' that's no better than a 'parts watch', that has been gathering dust on my bench, for more years than I care to remember. The other was to try fitting the 7210 dial / movement from my second string example of stainless 7A38-7130 SAA092J, to see how it looked. Which is what I finally got around to doing this afternoon.

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Nailing it together was straightforward and literally a 10 minute job. The 7210 dial / movement and its matching cream plastic dial ring slotted straight into the 7A34-7019 watch case. Though having done so, I'm not entirely convinced that it 'works' as well as my 609L dialed Franken. It suffers from the same anomaly as my other creation in having 4 lines of 'text' on the dial, including the italic Chronograph script, which needlessly duplicates the engraved capitals around the circumference of the bezel. I'm not sure if it's the raised appliqué (rather than printed) SEIKO logo which makes it look worse. Maybe it did need toning down, but the 7210 dial looks a bit bland compared to the 609L. I suppose, were I to decide to keep this configuration, I could 'bling it up' a bit by replacing the black sub-dial hands with gold plated ones.

The other annoying little niggle looks like a series of flaws in that slightly angled wrist shot. It's worse when viewing the watch directly head on. It's caused by light refraction. The 7A34-7019 has a shallow double-domed crystal, with a tiny polished bevel edge, that's intended to play more light on the dial. Instead, in this case, it's picking up and magnifying the slightly longer rectilinear minute marks of the 7210 dial. It's probably best explained by this side-by-side photo of the original 7A34-7019 and 7A38-6109 sample case dials that I took when I was planning my original Franken build:

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The round dot minute marks of the 609L dial may be bolder, but they're on a slightly smaller P.C.D., which keeps them far away enough from the crystal's polished bevel so as not to get picked up. Undoubtedly, I could very easily solve the 'refracted index' problem, by replacing the existing crystal with a plain flat generic, with no polished bevelled edge (like a Sternkreuz MSM). While I'm at it, I could probably find a plain gold-plated bezel (from another model) which would fit the 7A34 watch case and cancel out the duplicated 'Chronograph' anomaly, but frankly I can't be bothered. :P

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Wearing something suitably deep blue on this dreary overcast SATurday morning - except it doesn't have a day display. My recently acquired ex-Yahoo Japan 'Junk' Orient HFA701-70 BreitBling clone, now fully working and for the moment, still fitted with its original cardboard consistency Orient tan 'mock croc' leather strap.

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A splash of red, to brighten up a dull grey overcast SUNday afternoon. A barely worn watch from my collection, that like many others, seldom sees the light of day: my Cartier Ferrari Formula Cal. 531, model # F659.44.83. More here.

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Speaking of Titanium, as I was earlier, I'm wearing this 7A38-7120 SAA044J on this typically grey overcast UK August Bank Holiday Monday morning. It's drizzling; hence the tiny raindrop on the crystal, just below the 58 minute mark. :roll:

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This is the same model which featured in Seiko's 1986 UK TV advert that includes the voiceover I use as my signature.
Some watches are made to last only as long as they are fashionable.
Some watches simply aren't made to last.
Seiko watches are designed to withstand the ravages of both time and fashion.
Some day, perhaps, all watches will be made this way.

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Dismal afternoon swap for what's effectively the stainless steel version of this morning's watch - my 7A38-7120 SAA091J.

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More dull grey titanium to match the cloudy UK skies above. :roll: My 7A38-7130 SAA046J. In case you hadn't gathered from my dismally lit wrist shot, the SEIKO and TITANIUM logos, hour and minute hands and batons are actually bright gold plated, but however I tried to angle the watch, I couldn't find so much as a glimmer of sunlight to pick them out. Closer studying of my photo reveals that, just like yesterday morning, another tiny raindrop has managed to sneak into the frame (at the bottom of the 1/10 second sub-dial). Last day of August. Looks like Summer is well and truly over. :(

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Incidentally, back in the days when Titanium was rarely used in watch construction, Seiko's marketing people evidently seized the opportunity to charge a premium for it. The small illustration below from a 1986 German catalogue shows a recommended retail price of 1,295 DM. Depending which German inflation rate / Deutsche Mark conversion calculator tool you use, that comps out at between 1180 and 1220 Euros in today's money.

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Afternoon swap for the cream coloured dial stainless equivalent, the better of my two examples of 7A38-7130 SAA092J. Amusing to note how the claimed water resistance, printed on the dial of this slightly later model, after the obligatory SPORTS has crept up from 100m to 150(m). Yet strangely, comparing their component parts lists, this stainless variant uses exactly the same crystal gasket, crown and pusher O-rings and case-back seals as the Titanium 7A38-7130. :lol:

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Variations on a theme, part 5. As you may have gathered from this sequence of wrist shots, I've been working my way through one of my recently re-organized collection boxes, which now contains my non-diver Sports 100 / 150 models. This is the last of that family, a nice example of the stainless 7A38-713A SAA104J. I believe this was an Italian market model, for the simple reason that the examples which have passed through my hands have had English / Italian day wheels and that they only ever infrequently seem to turn up on eBay Italy. Therein lies another story ....

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Prior to acquiring this example, I'd previously bought a couple of lesser examples (both off eBay Italy). The first in 2015 was little better than a parts watch; the other, 2 years later in July 2017, was in only average worn cosmetic condition, suffering from the usual lateral slop in the bracelet links. I wanted to find a nice example to properly complete my set. I'd like to think this was third time lucky, but the reality is rather different. :roll:

This watch, case-back serial number 8D3764 was first listed on eBay in May 2019, by the devious loathsome profiteering re-seller simone00simone. That should have raised a red flag immediately. Here's a few of his original listing photos.

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That first auction was fairly obviously blatantly shilled, in the best Italian tradition, supposedly selling on 25th May 2019 for 401 Euros. Simone continued to re-list it throughout June and July 2019 with a similar unrealistic Buy-it-Now price of 400 Euros and at least one new set of photos, to no avail. It eventually sold, but within a week, the Italian buyer turned round and himself listed it on eBay, as a 7-day auction, using Simone's most recent set of photos. A few of those below:

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Given the previous ownership (Simone), I really should have known better and stayed away, but as this had been the best condition example I'd seen to date, I decided, rightly (or wrongly as it turned out) to have a punt at it this time. Needless to say, the auction was once again blatantly shilled in the best Italian tradition, but I ended up winning, for what at first I considered a reasonable 241 Euros. The Italian re-seller charged me 25 Euros for shipping and I paid his eBay invoice for a total 266 Euros. The watch duly arrived. My initial reaction was annoyance, because he'd sent it by Poste Italiane 'economy' without any tracking, but over-charged for 'priority'. But the watch had some serious issues.

As received, the 4 o'clock pusher function was totally U/S (the button was actually jammed with an errant unidentified piece of plastic) which I partly sorted myself. But it subsequently revealed itself to have some significant timekeeping problems, regularly grinding to a halt during the day / date changeover. After some lengthy acrimonious exchanges and under threat of reporting him to eBay for shill bidding activity, the Italian eBay seller sent me a partial refund of £90.

At that stage, I did briefly consider swapping over the dial / fully functional movement from my 'second string' example, but that wouldn't really solve the problem - just move it. So I left the watch, in disgust, in the tin box it came in, for 6 months. In February 2020, I started sending some of my troublesome 7A38's to Simon 'Sir Alan' for movement services. This watch was one of the first pair I sent him.

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Returning that 7A38-713A to my collection box, I happened to notice that the aforementioned 'second string' example in the adjacent slot had started dancing 'the two-second two-step', so I've just replaced the battery in that one. The dial colour hasn't faded (compared to my previous much better condition example). It's just a poorly lit Q&D photo. ;)

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That example has a case-back serial # 783736, which is evidently far from unique. More on that subject in this thread.

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Speaking of 're-distribution' of bracelet adjustment links (as I was earlier), while continuing the re-organisation of my Sports 100 / 150 collection box, I found a Post-It note reminder that I'd left myself earlier. Job's already been done - each of them now has at least one spare adjustment link - in reserve, under their clasps and still fit my 7½" wrist. 8-)

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Here's a decidedly dark and dingy shot of my almost mint 7A38-7040 SAA019J. Clean Peppermint Green Machine. :mrgreen:

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While I've still got my 'greensleeves' on, here's a rather more brightly lit 'warts and all' shot of my 'second string' example of the peppermint green 7A38-7040 SAA019J. The problem with allowing more light to fall on the watch, is that it only serves to bounce the inevitable and almost unavoidable reflections off the domed crystal. :x

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This example, the first I bought, has been in my collection for just over 10 years, purchased off eBay UK in August 2011, from an Italian gentlemen who'd bought it new (in Italy) and subsequently moved to Scotland. There's light rubbing wear to the dark grey PVD coating around the lip of the watch case and edges of the bracelet links. But I've seen a lot worse. In fact, I have the means to remedy that. I consider myself fortunate to have a NOS watch case in my spares stock. :mrgreen:

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When I get around to it, it won't be directly used for improving this watch, but my other almost mint example. I'll then transfer that watch case (which has a tiny, almost negligible amount of coating loss), to this 'second string' example. ;)

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Seiko7A38 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:06 pmThe problem with allowing more light to fall on the watch, is that it only serves to bounce the inevitable and almost unavoidable reflections off the domed crystal. :x
After a week of truly dismal weather, the UK skies are finally starting to brighten up. Which means worse reflections. Continuing in SPORT TECH SPORTS 100 mode, here's my almost mint example of 7A38-704A SAA021J. Still, I suppose I ought to be thankful, at least the orange bits came out nice and bright, actually looking orange instead of yellow. :roll:

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Following on, logically from this morning's wrist shot, an afternoon swap for my NOS condition 7A38-704B SAA023J. :)

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Seiko7A38 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:06 pm.... peppermint green 7A38-7040 SAA019J. I consider myself fortunate to have a NOS watch case in my spares stock.
Yesterday, when I checked my spares stock, I found that I also had another NOS spare case for the 7A38-704B SAA023J.

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According to my records, I purchased it two years before I acquired the watch, presumably 'on spec'. :roll: The grey PVD coating on my 7A38-704B is pristine, so I'll probably end up using it to improve my 7A38-704A, which has an annoying little chip on the case lip near 8 o'clock, above the crown (swapping their buttons and dial rings over, naturally).

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I'm going to take a break from that sequence of Seiko 7A38-704x's, before all the dull dark grey PVD gets too boring. :lol:
It's a bright blue SATurday morning in UK, so what else would I be wearing, but a Yema Spationaute III Aragatz ? Image
This is one of my better examples of 'Cadran Drapeux' (numbered commemorative edition) with the mission flags dial. (Incidentally manufacturing s/n 1 663 and limited edition number 166.) From memory, it's the only one of these in my collection, which came to my hands, fitted with the correct original Yema dark blue prominently ribbed leather strap.

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I fondly remember writing about this example in the old forum's Yema N7's and N8's spotted thread. I purchased it off the Belgian classifieds site 2ememain.be in March 2014, complete with Yema presentation box and a copy of the Yema N7 / N8 / N9 instruction manual (which had eluded me up to that point), for a remarkably satisfying 120 Euros. :D

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Checking my spreadsheet records, the Belgian seller didn't even charge me anything for postage - he shipped it free ! :) I didn't buy this (nor any of the other Spationaute III's in my collection) as an 'investment', but simply because I happen to like them. Comparing the current trend for inflated asking / re-selling prices (as I did in this recent thread), I reckon that in today's climate, this example has to realistically be worth at least 5 times what I paid for it - i.e. 600 Euros. :mrgreen:

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