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Carrying on where I left off yesterday (on the previous page), working my way through that collection box and following the model number sequence, here's one of a pair of NOS condition 7A38-725A SAA082J's that I'm fortunate to own. :)

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Here's a bit of strictly anorak-level information. :geek: The majority of models in the 7A38-724x / -725x / -725x range have gold-plated vaguely elliptical bezels. They may look all the same to the uninitiated (especially if their plating is worn). However appearances can be deceptive. There are actually two different gold plated bezels. The 7A38-725A SAA082J (above) and 7A38-7250 SAA080J (overleaf) use bezel p/n 82343121, which has a brushed semi-matt upper surface. The other two-tone and gold-tone variants use p/n 82343101 which has a bright polished upper surface. Just so you know.

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I've had a few gunmetal two-tone 7A38-725A's pass through my hands over the years. I thought it might have been half a dozen, but I can only account for five. Here's a photo I took in October 2010, showing my two NOS condition examples (at left and centre) and a third decent condition example on the right, which I sold on eBay at the end of that month.

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What I found quite incredible, when checking the spreadsheet record of my eBay purchases, was how little I'd actually paid for the two NOS examples back in 2010 - just over $100 for the pair (not each) !! Those certainly were the days. :D

That said, I'd also earlier bought a couple of lesser examples, both of which came without their bracelets. I remember one got broken up for parts immediately (and stayed that way). The other, which was actually the first I example of a 7A38-725A I ever bought, off eBay Germany back in October 2009, also got robbed of its movement, but subsequently rebuilt with the movement from a scrapped 7A38-6090. I later converted it into a franken, using a gold-tone 7A38-728x case and bracelet. I never really was entirely happy with that blingy combination and eventually broke it up for parts again, where it had lain neglected for ages. :( Call me a sentimental old Hector, but I've just resurrected it again. :lol:

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Here's another snippet of strictly anorak-level information. :geek: Those non-standard gold lettering on black background day and date wheels (Seiko p/n's 0170738 and 0878513) were only used on the gunmetal two-tone 7A38-6090 SAA117J.

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Which brings us round to the 7A38-7260. Unfortunately, before I came up with the idea of this sequence, I'd previously posted wrist shots of the stainless 7A38-7260 SAA097J and two-tone 7A38-7260 SAA098J much earlier in this thread. :oops: There's no point in my reposting them (click on the links above). So that just leaves the gold-tone 7A38-7260 SAA100J.

Blingy they may be, but I'm quite partial to them. I know for a fact that I've had more than half a dozen of these pass through my hands over the last 10 years, because I've currently got 5 in my collection and have broken up at least two examples with worn gold plating to rob them of their movements. This is my best NOS example on the correct original tan leather Seiko p/n BRJ37G strap.

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If you followed the storyline of my acquisitions in the old forum's 7A38-7260 SAA100J model thread, then you'll already know, with that sample case build last year, I unintentionally ended up with three gold-tone 7A38-7260's fitted with the Seiko p/n BRJ37G tan leather strap. :roll:

Truth be told, I actually prefer them on Teju Lizard. This tobacco coloured IW Suisse straps is one of my favourites. :)

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The last model in this dressy elliptical cased series, the 7A38-726A SAA102J is a bit of a mongrel mash-up; effectively a combination of the white p/n 718LXS14 dial from the gold-tone 7A38-7260 SAA100J in the two-tone stainless watch case of the 7A38-7260 SAA098J. I wouldn't exactly call them 'rare', but they're certainly scarcer than either of those. For the last 12 years, there's only been one example in my collection and the desire to add another simply hadn't arisen. Before I post this morning's wrist shot, allow me recount a little of its history.

I bought it off eBay UK in June 2009. It was almost mint, save for one tiny ding on the bezel near 11 o'clock, but came on what I considered a fairly awful dark green shark strap. Here's a high resolution version the seller's sole listing photo (which as uploaded to eBay measured only 300x400 pixels):

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I'd traded a few messages with the seller and learned it had belonged to his father, to whom it had been presented for 25 years service (with Heinz). Fortunately the case-back hadn't been engraved to reflect this. The seller disclosed it had a minor fault: a 'slipping sweep second hand'. Being a relatively inexperienced novice, that didn't concern me too much at the time and I won the auction for less than £40 (£39.98 in fact) - a rather pleasing result. :) Less than a year later I needed to replace the battery, which is when I discovered the reason for the recalcitrant sweep second hand, the first time I'd ever encountered it - a clumsily deflected centre seconds finger tension spring. Hence followed by my 'rant' on the UK RLT watch forum: A Rant About High Street Watch-Botchers. Although all the linked photos from that thread have long since gone missing, readers may recall seeing my photos of the 7A38-726A, which I used as a prime example to start our old forum thread: The all-too-common Displaced Finger Tension Spring chrono' sweep hand problem.

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As I wrote somewhere in another thread on RLT, I was going through 'a lizard phase' at the time (taken in January 2010):

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That cheap tan lizard strap I fitted to the 7A38-726A was only ever intended as a 'stop gap' replacement for the 'orrible green shark strap it came on, but didn't look too bad on the wrist:

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Thanks to a member of the old Network54 SCWF DeskDiver (Peter Boggiano) I knew what the correct original Seiko p/n BRJ36G strap looked like. Peter had posted (the same) photos of his example in 3 different threads, as far back as 2007:
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Knowing what the correct original strap looked like and its Seiko part number is one thing. Finding one was another. :roll:
I wasted nearly 8 years fruitlessly searching. In March 2017, loathsome greedy Dutch eBay seller watch-expert-europe (now watchpartsplaza), who has almost single-handedly systematically wiped out Seiko Netherlands stock of obsolete spare parts, listed two NOS Seiko p/n BRJ36G straps @ 39.99 Euros apiece (nearly as much as I'd paid for the watch). :( I swallowed hard and bought them both. Needless to say, in the interests of preservation, it only gets worn sparingly.

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So, having achieved my goal of owning a mint example on the correct original Seiko leather strap, there's no real reason why I should ever want to buy another. Or is there ? :?

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There might be one possible justification for such an extravagance - something I'd previously managed to overlook. :roll: I'd dropped a subtle hint earlier in the week in a post on the previous page:
Seiko7A38 wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:16 amThe other part of that time-consuming ongoing exercise, which continued at the weekend, involved digging out all my 7A38-724x's, -725x's and -726x's, some of which had previously shared the same 36-slot watch box with my 7A38-706x's, and setting them out in one dedicated 24-slot box. I've almost finished (and filled it), with one incoming still to arrive.
This nice example of 7A38-726A was listed on eBay Germany nearly 2 weeks ago, with a Buy-it-Now price of 189 Euros:

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I was intrigued by the tan leather strap, with its additional central row of stitching, which the seller had described as: Original Seiko Lederarmband Braun. Accepted that doesn't always necessarily mean 'original' to that particular watch. I quickly scanned through all the photos of 7A38-726A's in my folders, that I'd saved over the last 10 years or so. There were a number of used examples fitted with (non-original) tan leather straps, but nothing quite like this. I was by then already mentally comparing the strap to the grey Seiko p/n BRZ16G strap on my two-tone 7A38-7260 SAA098J. Or should I more correctly say 'J3'. Next I checked my 7A38 database spreadsheet and noticed my comment against the J3 variant:

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The German seller was offering shipping to 'European Union', which unfortunately automatically excludes UK buyers. :x But as the old saying goes: There's more than one way to skin a cat. 8-) Since Brexit, I've found the simplest workaround is to borrow a friend's delivery address. In this instance, I used forum member Uhrige7A (Finn) as the 'middle man'. ;)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154607624767

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Finn received it last week and emailed me this photo, describing it as being in 'Stunning condition'. :)

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His photo shows something which wasn't visible in any of the German eBay seller's photos: a slender gold-plated buckle, which appears to be exactly the same style as fitted to the p/n BRZ16G strap on my two-tone 7A38-7260. While not conclusive evidence that this strap is the never-before-seen Seiko p/n BRJ38G, it's near enough to clinch it for me.

Anyway, without further ado and better late than never, here's my 7A38-726A SAA102J3 German market strap variant.

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Wearing my original 7A38-6060 SAA071J 'beater' on this grey overcast blue SATurday morning (just replaced its battery).

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It's not quite 'as original' as it was, having benefited from a better condition (much less graunched) bezel a few years ago. The dark blue white stitched double ribbed 18mm strap is a Yema (normally found on the N71Z36 America's Cup).

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I wouldn't want to give the impression that my choice of wrist wear is dictated by the need to replace their batteries, but sometimes it's closer to the truth than I care to admit. :oops: Working on another batch this morning. Just done this blingy RACER J39908-70, so I thought I'd post a quick wrist shot of it.

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In case it might look vaguely familiar, I may be wearing the same 'matching' shirt, but it's not the same Racer J39908-70 that I posted at the beginning of August at the top of page 8, but another example on a different dark green strap. :P

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I ended up spending the best part of yesterday afternoon, going through a couple of my collection boxes, re-organizing them and replacing batteries where necessary. Quite a few of my dressy Orient and Racer J39's hadn't been checked in a good while. :oops: I'd forgotten how attractive some of them were. This may not be the best example (indeed far from it), but it's still one of my favourites. The first Racer J39028-70 (and indeed first of this case design), that I purchased off Spanish classifieds site Milanuncios, back in November 2014. The story of my acquisition and subsequent refurbishment is documented on page 4 of the old forum's Racer 'Spanish Inquisition' thread.

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As you can see (from that link) it's still fitted with same slightly unusual Cobra 18mm strap that it came on (these watch cases have a 19mm lug width) and the incorrect flat replacement crystal which I fitted in ignorance (it should correctly be shallow domed with a flat bottom). I've yet to find a generic mineral glass with the correct section. Incidentally, if you didn't bother reading the old thread, that bright (although marred) finish to the case is Palladium plating.

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I've already posted a less than ideal wrist shot of my dark blue dialed Racer J39028-70 here, on the first page of this new WRUW thread. Until I'm able to resolve the issue with the overly thick replacement domed crystal that I fitted, which I also explained here, in another thread, there's not a lot of point in taking another. So here's my black dialed Racer J39028-70, which is completely original, including its crystal and rather bland looking Orient 'mock croc' strap. The available light has been variable at best today, so please excuse the couple of unavoidable reflections.

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Something probably not immediately apparent from my photo, is that the sub-dial rims are Palladium plated, rather than gold (as per the other two dial colour variants), as also is the buckle. Nice detail touches. :)

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Here's another variation on the same dressy J39 case design - my gold-tone Racer J39928-70, in almost mint condition. It's fitted with the correct original Orient 'mock croc' strap. Note the different dial with unusual chevron pattern.

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Here's my black dialed version of the Racer J39928-70, which incidentally (like the previous white dial) was another that I replaced the battery of, at the weekend. Not an easy watch to photograph, so I make no apologies for the reflections off the domed crystal. This one's fitted with the same bland Orient branded 'mock croc' strap as yesterday's J39028-70.

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The Racer J39029-70 came in a gloss gunmetal coated two-tone finish. It has another different Roman numeral dial and pomme style hands. This dial variant is two-tone charcoal grey and black and has some delicate texturing, which I've always found almost impossible to capture in a photograph. :oops: Here's a couple of this morning's (failed) best efforts.

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I've already posted a wrist shot of my cream-dialed Orient J39930-70 here on page 4 of the WRUW thread and written up the lengthy trials and tribulations involved in transforming it from a frankened wrong 'un to correct original factory configuration in this thread. So here's its white dialed sibling, which thankfully came in unmolested NOS condition (off the Swedish classifieds site Tradera, of all places, back in December 2016). It shares the same dial design as the Racer J39928-70, but obviously branded Orient rather than Racer. The light wasn't particularly good this morning and try as I might, I couldn't get my camera to pick up the dial's chevron pattern. Trust me, it's there.

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Wearing my gold-tone Racer J39914-70 and an old washed out sweatshirt, neither of which see light of day very often. Just call me Ron Burgundy. :P This watch once held the dubious distinction of being the worst timekeeper in my entire collection. I bought it off the Spanish auction site Todocoleccion, back in September 2017. When I fitted a new battery, it ran, but lost seconds per minute, rather than per month ! I gave it the nickname 'Big Time Loser'. Eventually I sent it off to Simon for a movement service in March 2020 and it's run like clockwork ever since. :) Incidentally the oxblood coloured strap is genuine Orient, but originally came fitted to my first light green dialed NOS Racer J39908-70.

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Wearing my worst condition Yema Spationaute III Aragatz beater, in the rain, on this wet miserable SATurday morning.

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Wearing this almost NOS condition Yema N8 Flygraf on this unseasonally sunny SUNday morning. I don't think I've posted a wrist shot of this example before. It's fitted with a black version of the ZRC 'Veau Nautic' double-ribbed strap that I've used to good effect on a couple of my Spationaute III's (and also a Yema wire loop type buckle). The slight discrepancy in the colour of the hour and minute hands and baton lume (which isn't uncommon) made me think of that ludicrously over-priced parts watch currently listed on eBay UK. By his reckoning this watch has to be worth at least £1375 !! :lol:

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Seiko7A38 wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 2:59 pm Better late than never - my long awaited NOS Orient J39004-70. :D

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Note to self: I need to take and post a better wrist shot of that one at some point. Meanwhile, here's a 'warts and all' as received shot of the similar Orient J39004-70 which I bought on a whim off eBay Italy last week. Whereas it's not quite the totally irredeemable piece of junk I expected it to be (for 25 Euros), it's going to need more than just a bit of TLC.

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Seiko7A38 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:37 pmNote to self: I need to take and post a better wrist shot of that one at some point.
Let's get that out of the way first. Not great, but an improvement on my previous dingy rain-sodden effort.

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