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Seiko7A38 at January 17, 2020 at 6:43 AM

This Yema N8 Flygraf, suffering from a re-calcitrant chronograph sweep second hand, a badly scratched crystal (and more besides), was listed earlier this morning by a French eBay seller, with a laughably over-optimistic 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of 249 Euros and currently no option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254484081292


I can't say I'd noticed before. but French eBay seller 2015-mokra had subsequently revised his listing for a well-worn Yema N8 Flygraf (two days later on 19th January), adding the option to make an offer. It finally sold early this morning.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254484081292


Not for his over-optimistic Buy-it-Now price of 249 Euros, but as revealed by the alternative 'true selling price' link for a somewhat lower best offer of 150 Euros.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=254484081292


February 21, 2020 at 11:07 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at November 24, 2019 at 1:51 PM

This Yema N8 Flygraf was listed earlier this evening, by a French eBay seller, as a 10-day auction, with an opening bid price of 250 Euros. The watch is in average used condition and fitted with a replacement ZRC leather strap. The case-back has suffered the usual tool inflicted graunches and its engraving appears to have been all but obliterated. :( From comparing their photos, I suspect this is probably the same N8 Flygraf, which was listed on LeBonCoin at the end of July (see my post dated August 4, 2019 at 11:06 AM), but obviously, with no case-back serial number visible, I can't be 100% certain.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333410756736


The French eBay seller had re-listed that Yema N8 Flygraf eight times (as 10-day auctions) since the last week of November. Eventually, somebody finally placed a bid on it. The most recent 10-day auction ended yesterday evening, with the Flygraf theoretically selling for a slightly reduced opening bid price of 240 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333515101283


I say 'theoretically', because if you check the eBay Purchase History the winning bidder has Zero feedback. Still I suppose everybody's got to start somewhere. :/



February 25, 2020 at 3:13 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This is turning into yet another Yema N8 Flygraf thread. :lol: Late yesterday evening, I spotted this well worn example listed on Yahoo Japan, as a 4-day auction, with an opening bid price of 1000 Yen. It's still fitted with its original Yema ribbed black leather strap, which has obviously seen better days. I can't quite work out whether the crystal is scratched or has some film (Sellotape?) stuck on it. The case-back engravings appear to have been all but obliterated. Bidding is currently @ 3,200 Yen and there are still 2 days of the auction left.



http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f406506355




Google translates the Japanese seller's title and description as follows:


YEMA men's watch battery running out of belt damage damaged.

Thank you for watching. 

This is a used item. Please tender after confirming the product with the image. 

Delivery: It will be shipped from Osaka. 

60 size (Yu-pack) shipping weekly It will be irregular twice. 

Please note that we do not ship on weekends and holidays, so there is a possibility that shipping will be delayed because it will be shipped only on weekdays. 

If payment takes more than a week, please contact us. If you can not contact us, we are sorry, but please understand that it will be canceled. 

The posted image is a photograph of an actual exhibit, but there may be differences from the actual color depending on the shooting conditions. 

* Please note that we do not respond to phone calls after a successful bid, so we will reply with a message. 

I hope in a no claim no return. 

Thank you for reading for me until the end.


February 27, 2020 at 4:14 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above 4-day Yahoo Japan auction for a well-worn Yema N8 Flygraf ended a few moments ago, selling for ¥13,500 Yen after 17 bids, equivalent to $124.90 USD / £97.40 GBP. It might not have been the best of examples, but that's a darned sight cheaper than you're ever likely to pick one up off eBay France, or the US.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f406506355



February 29, 2020 at 7:28 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This supposedly NOS Yema N80P896 Psuedo Plongeur was listed late yesterday evening, by a US eBay seller, with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $275, with the option to make a lower, more sensible offer. Apart from looking generally shop-soiled, with light scuffs on the bezel and a grubby inner strap, the watch has been ruined, by some incompetent ham-fisted botcher, who has inflicted some nasty toolmark scratches on the case-back.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153850578282

 

BRAND: YEMA PARIS. 

MOVEMENT: SEIKO BASE CHRONOGRAPH QUARTZ MOVEMENT. 

CASE: STAINLESS STEEL AND YELLOW GOLD TONE WITH ROTATING BEZEL . APPROX 39MM IN DIAMETER EXCLUDING THE CROWN. 

CROWN: YELLOW 

DIAL: MATTE BLUE 

BAND: YEMA PARIS FRANCE GENUINE LEATHER STRAP. 

COMMENTS: DISCONTINUED MODEL YEMA PARIS CHRONOGRAPH SKIN DIVER WRISTWATCH . WORKS PERFECTLY. 

THIS WATCH IS A NEW OLD STOCK ITEM. IT HAS SOME SLIGHT MINOR MARKS AND HAIR-SCRATCHES OUTSIDE NOTABLY ON THE SCREW-IN CASE BACK DUE TO HANDLING AND REPLACING A BATTERY BUT NEVER BEEN WORN OFFICIALLY. 

THE WATCH ALSO COME WITH STOCK FACTORY LEATHER STRAP. 

PLEASE SEE PICTURES FOR MORE DETAILS AS THEY'RE PARTS OF THE ITEM DESCRIPTION. 

VINTAGE WATCHES ARE NOT GAURANTEED WATER RESIST OR WATERPROOF UNLESS SAID SO. 

International Buyers – Please Note: 

Import duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyer's responsibility. 

Please check with your country's customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying. 

RETURN POLICY: *************PLEASE READ BELOW ********** 

*****DUE TO RECENT PAYPAL POLICY CHANGE THAT IT IS NO LONGER TO ISSUE A PAYPAL FEE BACK IN A REFUND ONCE A PAYMENT IS PROCESSED THROUGH ITS WEBSITE. 

*****BECAUSE OF THIS , A REFUND FOR YOUR PURCHASE WILL NOT INCLUDE A PAYPAL FEE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES BESIDE SHIPPING FEES FOR A QUALIFIED RETURN. 

*****TO AVOID UNNECESSARY LOSS OF PAYPAL FEE, PLEASE DO NOT BUY , PAY AND THEN REQUEST TO CANCEL THE TRANSACTION. 

*****PLEASE DO NOT PAY UNTIL YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT WANT THE ITEM AND DO NOT ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING TO YOUR PURCHASE.


March 2, 2020 at 11:25 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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No great surprise (given that the flaky buyer had Zero feedback), that Yema N8 Flygraf is back on eBay again, re-listed by the French eBay seller, late yesterday evening, for what must be the 10th time. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333536656629


March 6, 2020 at 5:00 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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With one thing and another, I've fallen well behind with adding updates to this thread - indeed I'd omitted to post about a couple of Yema N8's, which were listed on eBay last week. Both are (or were) decent examples of the blingy gold-dialed N81W63 Breguet Classique clone.


The first was listed by an Italian eBay seller, at the beginning of last week, with a Buy-it-Now price of 145 Euros but without the option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233512619306



YEMA PARIS QUARTZ N81W63 . La condizione Usato. Spedito con Posta raccomandata standard.


March 12, 2020 at 6:16 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The second example, which appeared to be in slightly better cosmetic condition and, like the previous, also came fitted with a non-original replacement leather strap, was listed in the middle of last week, by a UK eBay seller, as a 7-day auction, with a very reasonable opening bid price of £51, or the option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133351412562

 

YEMA CHRONOGRAPH, QUARTZ + 15-JEWEL MOVEMENT. Excellent condition.

As you can see from the photos, it has hardly been used. It is part of my collection of interesting watches.

The view of the works shows that it is a quartz watch but has a 15-jewel movement.

As well as showing the time, day and date, the watch can be used for split-second timing, counting, and as a tachymeter.

The day can be shown in English or French.

The instruction leaflet is in English.

I am selling because I am 95. Enjoy it!


This was, I'm ashamed to admit, another case of me definitely not needing another one, but nevertheless I placed an opening bid of £55.67, just to get things rolling, expecting to be outbid. By yesterday morning, the listing had garnered another dozen watchers besides myself, but still I was the only bidder. With a couple of minutes of the auction left to run, somebody eventually got off their hands and placed 3 bids, taking the bid price to £56 - and then curiously just left it there. :roll:

What else could I do but respond ? Sold to me for £57 after 5 bids. :)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133351412562


March 12, 2020 at 6:20 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at January 15, 2020 at 11:14 AM

Meanwhile, later this morning, French eBay seller navycaptain56 listed another Yema Spationaute III 38mm Reduced, fitted with a non-original two-tone generic bracelet, as a 10-day auction, with an opening bid price of 259 Euros. This one also comes supplied with a leather strap. I must admit, when I first saw the listing, my first thought was it just a re-hash of the previous one (which came with a similar bracelet, supplied loose). But this example appears to be a different serial number.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223853763780


One of the reasons I sometimes fall behind in adding updates to these threads, is that I waste a lot of time tracking shenanigans by devious eBay sellers. This French eBay seller navycaptain56 falls firmly into that bracket. With 4 days of that 10-day auction still left to run, he ended it early, allegedly because of an error in the listing.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223853763780


I could have made my usual sarcastic observation that the error was in the pricing. In fact, I'd checked and around the same time, the French seller had ended all his other current listings, so I didn't bother. Two days ago, he re-listed a few of them, including that Yema Spationaute III 38mm reduced, model # N80A696, fitted with a non-original bracelet, as another 10-day auction listing. The difference being that the opening bid price has now crept up from the previous 259 Euros to 299 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223941246758

March 12, 2020 at 6:53 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I've trust I've made it abundantly clear in this (and a number of other threads) that I have nothing but utter contempt and disdain for would-be profiteering eBay sellers. One such, whom I've previously slated in this thread (when he bought and re-sold Don's Yema N81W63) is the Canadian eBay seller vintage_wheel_time.


Late last night, just before Midnight (UK time), he listed a well-worn Yema N8 Flygraf as a 7-day auction, with a laughably over-optimistic opening bid price of $370 CAD. Some of his photos are frankly rather abysmal, but they were adequate enough for me to instantly recongnize this Yema N8 Flygraf as yet another instance of fairly recent Déjà Vu ....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153861380451



Yema Flygraf made in France when the Yema company was owned by Seiko, it is powered by the popular Seiko 7A38 caliber. 

Based on the 7A28 caliber, the first quartz analog chronograph in the world available in 1983, the 7A38 presented a year later was identical but with the addition of a day and date function. 

These movements lacked any plastic parts within the gear train and with their 15 jewels, they can be serviced and adjusted like any mechanical movement. This makes them almost indestructible but as a consequence, most watches with this caliber have been used and abused during decades and it becomes very hard to find one in nice cosmetic condition. 

The one for sale here has an unknown history but it has been really well preserved. The watch is all original and in very nice condition for being over 30 years old. No box or paper are included. 

It keeps excellent time and all functions work as they should. 

- Pull the crown on the bottom left one click and turn it one way to adjust the date, the other way to adjust the day and it can be set en French or in English. Press the top right pusher to adjust the position of the 1/10th s. chrono sub dial on the right. Press the bottom right pusher to adjust the position of the big second chrono hand and press the top left pusher to adjust the position of the chrono's small minute hand on the left. 

- Pull the crown two clicks to adjust the time. The crown is a diver screw in type one so it needs to be unscrewed before to be used. 

The chronograph stop, starts, runs and resets like it should, including the fast 1/10s hand. 

The outer bezel moves freely in both directions but has a little play so it probably needs a new rubber seal underneath. 

New battery installed.


In case you didn't recognize it, there's a reminder at the top of this page. This is the same N8 Flygraf, which was eventually sold by French eBay seller 2015-mokra on 21st February, for a best offer of 150 Euros:


https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=254484081292



This would-be profiteering Canadian eBay seller has replaced the original badly scratched crystal. Judging by the distortion of the dial and hands, visible in a couple of his photos, notably the 7th, in the order which I have uploaded them, he's used a generic domed flat-bottom crystal as replacement. I wouldn't mind betting that he's used a Cousins p/n DF250CMH305, as I'd suggested years ago (as a possible cheap replacement for the Spationaute III), in the Crystals & Gaskets thread.


However, he hasn't made any attempt at re-finishing the badly scuffed case-back. Needless to say, the serial number 3-040 matches.


March 12, 2020 at 7:24 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Not surprisingly, the above 7-day auction for a well-worn Yema N8 Flygraf ended without any bids placed - unsold. The would-be profiteering Canadian eBay seller vintage_wheel_time duly re-listed it - initially exactly the same as before. However late this afternoon, he revised the listing, replacing the worst of his original abysmal set of photos with 7 that are a marginal improvement.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153871066875


March 21, 2020 at 1:47 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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With one thing and another, I'd overlooked to run any searches on LeBonCoin recently. So to remedy that I've just scrolled back through the first half a dozen pages to the beginning of March. There was another Yema N8 Flygraf, in average worn condition, suffering some loss of hands lume, fitted with a NATO strap, listed a couple of weeks ago. No price given and only the one photo. The seller states that he will not respond to ridiculous proposals, so you'd probably be wasting your time making anything like a reasonable offer.




http://www.leboncoin.fr/montres_bijoux/1761774740.htm/


March 22, 2020 at 11:21 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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There was also this NOS Yema Spationaute III Aragatz - a full set, with box and tag, listed 2 days ago. The seller is asking a hefty 500 Euros and whereas other NOS examples have sold for that kind of figure - but not to me I'll hasten to add. So, nice as it imay be, I think I'll pass. I didn't really need another anyway. :P




http://www.leboncoin.fr/montres_bijoux/1765554432.htm/




March 22, 2020 at 11:24 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at March 6, 2020 at 5:00 AM

No great surprise (given that the flaky buyer had Zero feedback), that Yema N8 Flygraf is back on eBay again, re-listed by the French eBay seller, late yesterday evening, for what must be the 10th time. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333536656629



I'd failed to notice earlier, that this much re-listed Yema N8 Flygraf had dropped to the bottom of page 6 of my eBay watching page. After a couple more re-listings, it appears to have sold again, yesterday morning for an undisclosed best offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333558899459

March 29, 2020 at 1:53 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The exact same watch has just been re-re-re listed on leboncoin yesterday

April 7, 2020 at 5:10 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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There was a Yema N8 Flygraf listed on LeBonCoin yesterday evening.

The price may be the same (250 Euros), but it's a different watch.



http://www.leboncoin.fr/montres_bijoux/1768560152.htm/



April 7, 2020 at 9:42 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Le Croisé
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You're right, I did not check the S/N on the back case.

April 8, 2020 at 3:13 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at March 21, 2020 at 1:47 PM

Not surprisingly, the above 7-day auction for a well-worn Yema N8 Flygraf ended without any bids placed - unsold. The would-be profiteering Canadian eBay seller vintage_wheel_time duly re-listed it - initially exactly the same as before. However late this afternoon, he revised the listing, replacing the worst of his original abysmal set of photos with 7 that are a marginal improvement.


I had to have a little chuckle to myself. :lol: I see that would-be profiteering Canadian eBay seller vintage_wheel_time has re-listed the ex-2015-mokra Yema N8 Flygraf (again as a 7-day auction, with the same over-optimistic opening bid price of $370 CDN), with yet another different set of 10 photos. :o The only remaining photo from his original set is that out-of-focus shot of the movement). :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/153893897983


@ Canuck Thierry - I see no copyright watermarks. :P


April 11, 2020 at 2:13 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Checking my eBay watching page, I see that well-worn Yema N8 Flygraf, which had been re-listed again, for another 7 days, by the Candian eBay re-seller, finally sold yesterday evening for  $375 CAD after 2 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153901264975


April 25, 2020 at 4:07 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This Yema N81X26, still fitted with the original Yema tan leather strap, was listed in the early hours of this morning, by a US eBay seller, as a 5-day auction, with an opening bid price of $295, or the option to make an offer. In case readers don't recognise the eBay ID, it belongs to forum member 'PHK' (a.k.a. Paul in Vegas). 8) The wrist shot he's included among his listing photos is one that he'd posted in the WRUW thread back in October 2017.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274355532720

 

Yema Chronograph N8 1X26 Seiko 7A38 movement. 

Yema N8 1X26 chronograph with a Seiko 7A38 movement. 

Keeping great time. Screw down crown. No sticky hands and they all reset to zero. 

Dial, Hands, Crystal, Case and Strap are all original and in good condition. 

A couple of scratches on the case back. The crystal has been lightly buffed. 

37mm in diameter. 44mm lug to lug. 20mm lug width. 

Battery replaced 12/19. 

Please contact me, before bidding, about international shipping prices. 

Lately I have seen CONUS shipping take 3 weeks and shipping to the UK up to 4 weeks. 

These times will, of course, change as we getting back to normal.


May 4, 2020 at 10:40 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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